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Post by lollipopgestapo on Aug 20, 2003 19:58:46 GMT -5
I love the way you look at it Carly... thats just perfect lmao ;D
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Post by talulad on Sept 24, 2003 8:04:00 GMT -5
it always seemed to me that the lines "girls you have to know when it's time to turn the page, when you're only wet because of the rain" seemed like it was talking about realizing when the mourning period is over and just moving on with your life... when life is back to normal and you're only wet because of the rain, your tears don't mean anything anymore.
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Post by BlackDove on Oct 15, 2003 3:17:48 GMT -5
Ok, I very rarely post in this forum, b/c I can't usually put my thoughts into anything that makes sense. AND, I doubt I will be able to do that now, but I liked J's answer and thought I might as well post my own little reply. That line has always meant something different to me. I thought of it more in terms of realizing when something isn't right, isn't working, and you know that you have to leave or stop it or whatever...You know that you have to find that courage and strength to move on, to identify what needs to change and why. "Wet" to me doesn't really mean tears, and I never thought of sex. I always thought of it more as a metaphor for darker emotions. I think of being wet, and I picture someone cold and shivering and in need of refuge....and the "You're only wet b/c of the rain" was kind of like, you have to wake up and realize that the reason for these dark emotions is staring you right in the face. I realize I am babbling and not making sense. LOL. Sorry. This is why I don't post in these threads much. It all makes sense in my head -- it makes sense on an emotional level -- but it never makes sense when I try to put words to it.
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Post by Koalapupu on Oct 15, 2003 10:21:16 GMT -5
I realize I am babbling and not making sense. LOL. Sorry. This is why I don't post in these threads much. It all makes sense in my head -- it makes sense on an emotional level -- but it never makes sense when I try to put words to it. Honey! Please please continue posting here! I know how you feel but I think I understood what you meant, so keep on babbling! I love to hear what people think of the lyrics. I can be fairly unintelligible here too!
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Oct 15, 2003 11:11:45 GMT -5
Honey! Please please continue posting here! I know how you feel but I think I understood what you meant, so keep on babbling! I love to hear what people think of the lyrics. I can be fairly unintelligible here too! Yes, I agree! Tori's lyrics are usually very open to interpretation.
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Post by BlackDove on Oct 15, 2003 12:47:55 GMT -5
Yes, I agree! Tori's lyrics are usually very open to interpretation. LOL. I definitely agree they are open to interpretation. I just don't feel like I ever make a bit of sense when I try to explain how I interpret things.
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Oct 15, 2003 13:28:21 GMT -5
LOL. I definitely agree they are open to interpretation. I just don't feel like I ever make a bit of sense when I try to explain how I interpret things. No, no, you made sense to ME! LOL, go read my Liquid Diamonds 'thoughts' and see how non-sensical I can be! Anyway, don't let your insecurities about us understanding you keep you from LETTING us try to understand....POST!
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Post by veela on Oct 15, 2003 14:38:39 GMT -5
this line has always had a sexual connotation for me but then again, i'm with the rest of the dirty minds here. to me it just says that the only thing that's making you wet is rain (that could be tears as well) and that's bullshit. he should be making you wet in good ways. turn the page, move on, forget him.
i do love that line...
the "how his knees could bend" part i also saw sexually but also to mean him being down on his knees, not in a begging sense but more of a "worshiping" kind of sense. just really looking up to her, putting her on a pedestal and treating her grandly.
i think it's a very sensual yet sad song. things began wonderfully but went wrong and people were trying to be what they weren't (guess you go too far when pianos try to be guitars) and it had to end. reminds me of my last relationship...
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Post by shetwinkles on Oct 15, 2003 16:02:09 GMT -5
"Wet" to me doesn't really mean tears, and I never thought of sex. I always thought of it more as a metaphor for darker emotions. I think of being wet, and I picture someone cold and shivering and in need of refuge....and the "You're only wet b/c of the rain" was kind of like, you have to wake up and realize that the reason for these dark emotions is staring you right in the face. ( I agree in a way with this, I pictured the line as someone drowning in their own fears and emotions, so "You're only wet b/c of the rain" means, wake up, pull yourself out of the dark waters and don't let yourself sink anymore. Lora xoxo
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Post by BlackDove on Oct 15, 2003 16:29:07 GMT -5
Yes, sort of like that. That's what I was attempting to say, in a sense. I guess I do make sense, afterall?
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Post by Hellfire on Oct 16, 2003 8:24:09 GMT -5
I thought "how his knees could bend" was also about him being on his knees giving her head. but that's me. You think that's sick? I for one always thought she was assuming the position of the man in the relationship (perhaps sexual, perhaps the sexual connotation is a metaphor for the 'bigger picture', do i make any sense?), like, getting on all-fours, you know. surrendering to her. in a way.
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Post by Concertina on Oct 16, 2003 9:30:49 GMT -5
That's weird, I was just listening to Northern Lad a few days ago and wondering what she meant by "wet". Did we all agree it's sexual?
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Post by Julie on Jan 30, 2005 14:21:32 GMT -5
NORTHERN LAD Had a northern lad well not exactly had he moved like the sunset Even though they were very much together, she felt that they didn't really have each other completely yet.god who painted that- first he loved my accent how his knees could bend I thought we'd be ok me and my molasses She thought things would work out but she was slow (like molasses) when it came to the situation they were in.But I feel something is wrong But I feel this cake just isn't done She feels something's missing in the relationship and when they break apart, their journey together isn't finished.Don't say that you Don't and if you could see me now said if you could see me now I'm not sure if this is referring to her doing better and wishing he could see her or her doing terribly and wishing for his realization of what he's done to her.girls you've got to know when it's time to turn the page She's telling others that they shouldn't make the same mistake she did and telling them that when it's over, it's over.when you're only wet because of the rain he don't show much these days it gets so fucking cold I loved his secret places but I can't go anymore Things are changing and the romance is fading."you change like sugar cane" says my northern lad He thinks that she is changing as well.I guess you go too far when pianos try to be guitars Now they are both trying to be enough for each other and trying to hard to make it work when it's doomed that way.I feel the west in you and I feel it falling part too Dont' say that you Don't and if you could see me now said if you could see me now girls you've got to know when it's time to turn the page when you're only wet because of the rain when you're only wet because of the rain Here's Tori's description of it: "My heart goes out to where that song [Northern Lad] comes from. It's very much about thinking you were loved for who you were, and realizing you weren't and realizing maybe you don't love yourself. The line, I guess you go too far/when pianos try to be guitars is just about never being enough. I felt that with my instrument sometimes, wanting to be Jimmy Page. You can only be you. A lot of times it's never enough for people." Tori said there was one thing that has been kept out of the media, and she can only thank her girlfriends (and some boyfriends) that have been loyal to her. In between her Sylvia Plath and heavy classics and non-fiction, she used to have books like The Flames of Love, etc. Trashy romance novels. She felt ashamed, but was so hooked on them. But one day she was talking to Beenie and was reminded how she used to always read them but not anymore, and why was that? "Because I met this guy, he's no white knight, but I wrote this for him." and went into Northern Lad. After she finished, she told us, "I'm really not supposed to talk about him, see we made a deal; I married him." At this point, there was a problem with one of the lights, so everything stopped while Kevyn gave Tori a "Lip Gloss Boost" and then asked if the person with the last question wanted to ask it now during the break. Chris stood up and told her back in '96, he was one of about 8 people at this radio station and she had played a new song, that is now Never Seen Blue. He wanted to know where it had come from. Tori was a bit surprised; "I did? I sang that? Oh shit. See, it's about the same guy that I'm not supposed to talk about about and I lied about Northern Lad and I don't have another lie." And she played it. So beautiful. -- an account of VH1 Storytellers on October 24, 1998 by Beth Coulter via The Dent
: Cars & Guitars - Tori Amos
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