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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 10, 2004 22:42:32 GMT -5
 Hello to all toriforum members! If you are hearing about this top 100 songs thread for the first time, I encourage you to check out the following link before reading on. toriforum.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=lounge&thread=1088818230&action=display&start=0 It was the original thread where the idea for this game was explained and the feedback received helped to shape the 'rules' for this ongoing nomination-game. In the interest of saving time and not repeating myself I'll not go over all the little details here... just read that thread to get caught up. ============================================ Here's how this "game" is going to work:When it's done, the goal is to arrive at a list of 100 songs that are our most favorite songs of all time. They can be songs from ANY artist, not just Tori. The way that's going to happen is that each of us (whether you have 1 post or 10,000 EVERYONE here is encouraged to participate) is going to nominate songs that we personally find to be our most favorite songs. The number of songs you may nominate depends on the points you give to them (see OFFICIAL RULES below). EDITING REQUIREMENTSThis thread will remain open and ongoing for 2 months (minimum) during which time you may post your list of songs (details to follow below) and you may edit your list as many times as you wish. HOWEVER! I ask that: 1. if you DO go back into your post and modify your list to edit out a song(s) and replace it with a different song(s), that you PLEASE post a separate quick post explaining what you took out and what you put in. We want to keep record of every song listed here, even if you change your mind and want to remove it before the game is done. The songs you remove will NOT get points, but we want to be able to see what you were considering. Only songs in your final list will get your points. 2. you please do attempt to work out your decisions as thoroughly as possible (perhaps on paper) before doing any impulsive posting. This will make for fewer edit-posts which will make following the thread much easier! But I do fully anticipate having several edit posts, so you don't need to apologize for them, just edit responsibly! At the end of the 'game' I will tally up the points accordingly (with weighted distribution, 4 points per entry of every song; see that other link for explanation) and the top 100 songs with the most points will make the list. I will post the final list sometime in September. Now, there very well might be a tie for several spots. If that happens, then we'll do a voting process to determine the final list. I HOPE that we'll get enough entries that ties won't be a problem, though. Ok, so here we go... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++OFFICIAL RULES and POINTS SYSTEM:
1. Everybody has 500 points to use.
2. 10 songs is the maximum number of songs allowed from any one artist. Tori and/or otherwise. (You may have up to 10 songs from Tori, up to 10 songs from Bjork or whoever, etc.)
3. 25 points is the maximum you may give to a song.
4. 5 points is the minimum you must give to a song.
Note: all points must be in increments of 5. So 5, 10, 15, or 20 points are your choices.
5. You MUST have a minimum of 20 songs on your list.
6. PLEASE everybody list your entries like this:
Complete and Accurate Song Title / Complete and Accurate Artist
If everybody does it the same it will be much easier for me to read. Alphabetizing, or otherwise organizing your list is not necessary, but grouping songs within the same points group would be helpful, as would numbering the songs within each group... so I can easily tell that you've met the minimum but not exceeded the maximum number of songs.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Ok, so use your points however you'd like.... 20 songs each given 25 points, or perhaps 100 songs each given 5 pts.... or any other combo you want... just stay within the rules and the 500 points. If you have questions, FEEL FREE TO POST THEM.
This thread is entirely welcome to get conversational![/b] Remember, everybody is encouraged to participate and it's more fun to put your list in early and make changes as necessary later... that way we can all see each other's favorites as we go along, rather than wait til the very end. It's perfectly fine to post a PARTIAL LIST to start off with, and then come back and finish it before the end. Newbies, this is a great way to jump in and share what other music you like and get to know everyone... we LOVE to talk about music here!  Oldies, you better all play or I'll kick ya all in the eye!  READY SET GO!! 
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 11, 2004 16:48:57 GMT -5
my obsessive mind will work on this for weeks, but yay, i was the first one to see it! |
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 11, 2004 17:14:27 GMT -5
my obsessive mind will work on this for weeks, but yay, i was the first one to see it! Don't know about that. It's had 6 views in between me finish modifying it the final time and you posting this. But yeah, to putting your list up soon. |
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 11, 2004 20:27:58 GMT -5
ok, party pooper, i posted first... ;D
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Post by Aims on Jul 12, 2004 2:55:19 GMT -5
Ok. After now reading that other thread in it's entirety, I think I finally understand the mathematics of it all.... so I'm in.
Now just gotta go away and figure out how to even begin my list... (I know it'll be hard - I've been a Tool fan for how many years and I only JUST came to a decision on my fave song of theirs last week... *wimpers*).
I'll stop the rambling now. Don't wanna clutter up this thread with my crap.
Must... get... to ........ thinking........
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 12, 2004 5:46:31 GMT -5
here's my list (as of now)!
20 points
1. Orinoco Flow – Enya
2. Double - The Captain Of Her Heart
3. Baker Street – Gerry Rafferty
4. More Than I Can Bear - Matt Bianco
5. Piano In The Dark - Brenda Russel
6. Dance Without Sleeping - Melissa Etheridge
7. Somewhere In The World – Swing Out Sister
8. Lama - Noa
9. Torn - Natalie Imbruglia
10. Ironic – Alanis Morissette
10 points
11. I Won’t Let You Down – PHD
12. Cry For Help – Rick Astley
13. Fast Car – Tracy Chapman
14. Smooth Operator – Sade
15. My Favorite Mistake – Sheryl Crow
16. More Than a Feeling - Boston
17. Constant Craving - KD Lang
18. Twenty-One - The Cranberries
19. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now - The Smiths
20. The Sensual World - Kate Bush
5 points
21. A Matter Of Feeling - Duran Duran
22. Sunday Morning – Bolshoi
23. Break Your Heart – Natalie Merchant
24. Enjoy The Silence - Depeche Mode
25. Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
26. Sand In My Shoes - Dido
27. Only Happy When It Rains - Garbage
28. It’s Over – Level 42
29. Freedom 90 - George Michael
30. Build - Housemartins
31. Once Upon a Long Ago – Paul McCartney
32. What’s Up? – 4 Non Blondes
33. Trouble – Coldplay
34. Repetition - Information Society
35. Luka - Suzanne Vega
36. True - Spandau Ballet
37. Advice For The Young At Heart - Tears For Fears
38. Cruisin' - Huey Lewis & Gwyneth Paltrow
39. Bizarre Love Triangle – Frente!
40. Doth I Protest Too Much - Alanis Morissette
41. Broken Wings – Mr. Mister
42. Your Cloud – Tori Amos
43. Doll Parts – Hole
44. Your Song – Elton John
45. All That She Wants – Ace Of Base
46. Kiss Them For Me - Siouxsie & The Banshees
47. Been Around The World – Lisa Stansfield
48. Love Is Love - Culture Club
49. Coming Around Again – Carly Simon
50. Patience – Guns’n’Roses
51. Stairway To Heaven – Led Zeppelin
52. Courage – Sarah Polley
53. Don't Speak - No Doubt
54. Wicked Game - Chris Isaak
55. Angels - Robbie Williams
56. Not Going Anywhere - Keren Ann
57. Landslide - Fleetwood Mac
58. Don't Know Why - Norah Jones
59. Kiss From a Rose - Seal
60. Build That Wall – Aimee Mann
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Post by Dreamer on Jul 12, 2004 6:05:11 GMT -5
I'm already thinking to my list..the bunch of my cd's by my side,the calculator in the hand..beer,sandwiches and coffee!  |
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 12, 2004 8:18:32 GMT -5
Paulo, Nice looking list there! See, already I'm reading song titles that are making me think 'ahh yes, that's a great song.' And you did it perfectly (arranged song- artist how I asked, and grouped songs in same points brackets) which will help to set the example... THANK YOU! (you made me use TWO exclamation marks, so that says something. lol )  Aims, glad the mathematics are making sense and that you'll be joining in soon. I know exactly what you mean about determining your favorites.... I have SEVERAL artists like that... I LOVE about 5 top songs and it's difficult to choose exactly which is the top top song... I keep going back and forth. I've changed my list (on paper) umpteen times. But somehow I think I'll end up going with what feels most favorite for me right now, as opposed to trying to choose the perfect song from an artist that I think *should* be the favorite for me. Hmmm, that made sense in my head. Anyway... yay.  Dreamer, It's always a good idea to be properly prepared with food drink and calculator before making any kind of list. LOL. I like that in a list maker. |
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 12, 2004 10:28:28 GMT -5
Paulo, Nice looking list there! See, already I'm reading song titles that are making me think 'ahh yes, that's a great song.' And you did it perfectly (arranged song- artist how I asked, and grouped songs in same points brackets) which will help to set the example... THANK YOU! (you made me use TWO exclamation marks, so that says something. lol ) oy, thank god! i was afraid i'd messed something up and would have to go to the corner or something. so thankfully i did it all right. as for my list... there's so much stuff i left out. i didn't even get a chance to use the 10 songs max rule, cuz the 80s one hit wonders dominate my list, haha. oh fuck, i just remembered i left 'Don't Speak' out. now it'll take two days till i realize what i'm gonna take out to include that one. the nightmare begins...  ;D |
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 12, 2004 11:20:11 GMT -5
the nightmare begins... ;D haha. I have 2 full pages crammed with scribbled nightmare! It's really hard, huh?! |
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 12, 2004 11:39:19 GMT -5
woman, you have no idea how! i mean, you do, but you're... normal (kind of), just imagine being me trying to do that. it took me two days to sum up about 150 songs which i separated into musical genre categories and picked out 10 out of which, which were then my 50 favorite. then guess what? the score system didn't allow me to use them all, so once again i started all over again... it was a hassle. and so far there's only one song i can think of that isn't there yet, i hope i don't remember anything else. i'm glad my list was the first cuz then i don't have to look at everyone else's and realize how many songs i forgot, otherwise by the end of these 2 months my list is gonna look nothing like it looks now. |
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 12, 2004 11:48:10 GMT -5
i'm glad my list was the first cuz then i don't have to look at everyone else's and realize how many songs i forgot, otherwise by the end of these 2 months my list is gonna look nothing like it looks now. LMAO! I've done this 'game' before on other message boards and it's AMAZING to see how peoples' lists get altered from their first post til the end of the game.. and quite funny, too. We were all yelling at each other for listing a song we'd forgotten... because of course we were all tempted to go back and edit our own. I mean you think you can think of everything, but chances are you will forget something... it can be neverending, trying to fit EVERYTHING you love in. That's one of the reasons I'm allowing edits... because I've been there, done that! The most enjoyable thing for me about doing this kind of game is getting to read about the huge VARIETY of songs. I really like seeing a title of a song that I haven't heard in years and that maybe I've forgotten all about.... or, alternatively, I like seeing when somebody puts 10 songs from an artist I've never heard of and all their other songs are things I already know I like...it makes me interested to check out the unknown artist, you know? Sharing music is always interesting.... |
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 12, 2004 11:56:13 GMT -5
Sharing music is always interesting.... and quite headach-y! right now i'm trying to figure out how to squeeze in "A Little More" in the list without altering anything too drastically given i already have to include 'Don't Speak'. No Doubt have the upper hand for having the song I've been listening to non-stop for almost 10 years (as opposed to Jennifer's, which I've only been listening to non-stop for a couple of months, lol), but maybe - just maybe i can squeeze in both. But first I need an aspirin... edit: FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!! Last night i was watching MTV and they showed 'Wicked Game', which is like, one of my top 10 songs ever! now i'm gonna have to edit bigtime because due to the points system, by including it in the top 10 i'll have to remove at least 4 songs from the bottom of the list, given i've wasted all my 500 points already. great. oh well, maybe i'll just replace a song in the top 10. will be hard to choose which, though. |
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 13, 2004 10:44:16 GMT -5
THREE WORDS for you, Paulo: Paper. Pencil. Eraser. |
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Post by Hellfire on Jul 13, 2004 19:31:00 GMT -5
three words for you: not a-gain... ;D
*scratches head*
*seeks pen & paper*
*finds lipstick*
*it'll do*
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Post by Dreamer on Jul 14, 2004 13:03:14 GMT -5
At least,anymore sandwiches,anymore beer  ... this is my defintive list! °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°<br>25 points(x 3) Hey Jupiter-Tori Amos Pagan Poetry-Bjork A forest-The Cure Tot.75 points °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°<br>20 points(x 3) Yes,Anastasia-Tori Amos Generous palmstroke(live box version)-Bjork Parole di burro-Carmen Consoli Tot.60 points °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°<br>15 points(x 4) Winter-Tori Amos The man with the child in his eyes-Kate Bush Yashal-Elisa Solitude standing-Suzanne Vega Tot.60 points °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°<br>10 points(x 10) Hey Jude-Beatles Jòga-Bjork Dreaming my dreams-Cranberries At night-The Cure Pictures of you-The Cure Freelove-Depeche Mode The slow drug-PJ Harvey You have been loved-George Michael Time is running out-Muse New year's day-U2 Tot.100 points °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°<br>5 points(x 41) No excuses-Alice in Chains Cornflake girl-Tori Amos China-Tori Amos Northernlad-Tori Amos Aurora-Bjork Cocoon-Bjork Wuthering heights-Kate Bush Confusa e felice-Carmen Consoli Ennesima eclisse-Carmen Consoli Orfeo-Carmen Consoli Daffodil lament-Cranberries White room-Cream Suzie Q-Creedence Clearwater revival Brother wolf,sister moon-Cult Hush-Deep Purple Riders on the storm-Doors The gift-Elisa Luce(tramonti a nord est)-Elisa Saturnine-Gathering November rain-Guns'n'roses The dancer-PJ Harvey Hey Joe-Jimi Hendrix She's lost control-Joy Division Jammin'-Bob Marley The unforgiven-Metallica Older-George Michael Come as you are-Nirvana Lithium-Nirvana Black-Pearl Jam Time-Pink Floyd Us and them-Pink Floyd Breaking the girl-Red hot chili peppers Under the bridge-Red hot chili peppers Sympathy for the devil-Rolling Stones Cascade-Siouxsie & The Banshees Made of stone-Stone Roses Walk on by-Stranglers Staring at the sun-U2 Marlene on the wall-Suzanne Vega Caramel-Suzanne Vega Willie the pimp-Frank Zappa (Tot.205 points) °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°<br>Final summary: 3x25=75 3x20=60 4x15=60 10x10=100 41x5=205 = 61 songs/500 points! (ok..i'll check for another beer now... ) |
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 14, 2004 18:04:45 GMT -5
Hey, Great list there, Dreamer! We have some definite favorites in common... although mine keep changing and some of them might not show up on my list when I'm done! I love The Forest and New Year's Day and Solitude Standing, just to name a few. Great going. Keep up the good (grueling) work everyone! |
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Post by elizabeth on Jul 14, 2004 18:06:44 GMT -5
I like both Dreamer's and Paulo's lists...going to work on mine.
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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Jul 14, 2004 18:17:25 GMT -5
I'm working on mine, too, elizabeth....
For now, I'll start posting a few songs a day until the list is complete, lol.
Not sure of the points yet exactly, but we'll see how that shapes up later.
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Mary's list of favorites (in progress)
Spark - Tori Amos
Precious Things - Tori Amos
How To Disappear Completely - Radiohead
Fake Plastic Trees - Radiohead
Idioteque - Radiohead
How Soon is Now? - The Smiths
Poor Places - Wilco
Lover You Should Have Come Over - Jeff Buckley
Famous Blue Raincoat - Leonard Cohen
Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
Summertime - Ella Fitzgerald
The Weight - The Band
Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin
A Day In The Life - The Beatles
Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones
After the Goldrush - Neil Young
Time Passages - Al Stewart
Be My Husband - Nina Simone
Nights In White Satin - Moody Blues
Silver Springs - Fleetwood Mac
Third Planet- Modest Mouse
Lodestar - Sarah Harmer
Heart of Glass - Blondie
Piano Man - Billy Joel
Breaking Us In Two - Joe Jackson
Alison - Elvis Costello
California - Joni Mitchell
Hello It's Me - Todd Rundgren
Hotel California - The Eagles
Solsbury Hill - Peter Gabriel
In Your Eyes - Peter Gabriel
The Ship Song - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Hallelujah - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Let's Get It On - Marvin Gaye
Strange Fruit - Billie Holliday
Moondance - Van Morrison
Layla - Eric Clapton
Father and Son - Cat Stevens
I Feel The Earth Move - Carole King
The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel
Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Brass In Pocket - The Pretenders
God Only Knows - The Beach Boys
Golden Brown - The Stranglers
Living For the City - Stevie Wonder
Someone Saved My Life Tonight - Elton John
Save A Prayer - Duran Duran
This Woman's Work- Kate Bush
Love Song - The Cure
This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody) - Talking Heads
Bizarre Love Triangle - New Order
Blister In the Sun - Violent Femmes
Anything - Dramarama
Where Is My Mind? - The Pixies
Red Hill Mining Town - U2
Don't Come Around Here No More - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Because The Night - Patti Smith
Jolene - Cake
Today - Smashing Pumpkins
Save Me - Aimee Mann
Lightning Crashes - Live
In Liverpool - Suzanne Vega
Losing My Religion - R.E.M.
All This Time - Sting
Under the Bridge - Red Hot Chili Peppers
Vincent - Don McLean
Chloe Dancer/ Crown Of Thorns - Mother Love Bone
Something's Always Wrong - Toad The Wet Sprocket
Hurt - Nine Inch Nails
Under Pressure - David Bowie
In The Air Tonight - Phil Collins
Amazing Grace - Jars Of Clay
Tom Sawyer - Rush
In The Sun - Joseph Arthur
Do You Realize? - The Flaming Lips
Mistake - Fiona Apple
Anna Begins - Counting Crows
Tom the Model - Beth Gibbons
Special Ones - george
Possession - Sarah McLachlan
Bossa Nova - Shivaree
Carnival - Natalie Merchant
Anywhere- Beth Orton
#41 - the Dave Matthews Band
Stay Or Leave - Dave Matthews
Not The Same - Ben Folds
The Noose - A Perfect Circle
Warning - Incubus
No Leaf Clover - Metallica*
Prayer For The Dying - Seal
All Along The Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix Experience
Volcano - Damien Rice
The Killing Moon - Echo and the Bunnymen
Everlong - Foo Fighters
Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes
Wow, I'm still not done..........
*Come on, Carly!
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Post by talulad on Jul 14, 2004 19:26:46 GMT -5
Hmm, on my list so far... Radical Dreamers~Without Stealing The Jewel - Yasunori Mitsuda Merman - Tori Amos Tear In Your Hand - Tori Amos Silent All These Years - Tori Amos 3 Libras - A Perfect Circle To Sheila - The Smashing Pumpkins Perfect World - Liz Phair Pompeii - Sleater-Kinney Rhapsody In Blue - George Gershwin Ave Maria - Joan Baez Não Chora Menina - Nobuo Uematsu Only Happy When It Rains - Garbage Full Of Grace - Sarah McLachlan Gypsy - Suzanne Vega Aenema - Tool Fake Plastic Trees - Radiohead Edit: Ok, I think I'm adding: All I Really Want - Alanis Morissette Ironic - Alanis Morissette Precious Illusions - Alanis Morissette Unforgettable - Natalie Cole and Nat King Cole Kamikaze - PJ Harvey Big Exit - PJ Harvey Meet Ze Monsta - PJ Harvey Inevitable - Shakira Ojos Así - Shakira For Martha - The Smashing Pumpkins Farewell And Goodnight - The Smashing Pumpkins Thirty-Three - The Smashing Pumpkins Mayonaise - The Smashing Pumpkins Supernova - Liz Phair A Million Parachutes - Sixpence None The Richer Trouble In The Fields - Sarah Harmer Leave You Behind - Sleater-Kinney Heart-Shaped Box - Nirvana Are You That Somebody - Aaliyah And I haven't even started to think about Tori yet, except the few I knew were in for certain. Also haven't even begun to weed through my mp3 files... I think I may have to cut some of these  Edit2: How the HELL could I forget this song?! It's one of the greatest songs of all-time, I think. PMing someone just reminded me of it... Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon & Garfunkel I think I'll leave each edit up so I can watch as my list grows all funky and strangelike... ;D Edit3: (don't worry, I'll post a new post when I've actually made a real list with points and all... these are just possible choices. Well, some of them. Some of them are definitely on the final list already...) I'm adding: Running Up That Hill - Kate Bush Cloudbusting - Kate Bush Untouchable Face (Fuck You) - Ani Difranco The Grudge - Tool Eyes On Me - Faye Wong Gone - The Sundays Fantasie Impromptu - Frederic Chopin Somebody - Veruca Salt I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever - Sonic Flood Out Tonight - Rent Coffee & TV - Blur Rhiannon - Fleetwood Mac Landslide - Fleetwood Mac This is taking longer than I thought... time for bed. I'll add more in the next few days... And of course, these are just the songs that have made it past the first cut. Most of them will end up on the final list... but NOT all. Some songs are just going to HAVE to have 25 points ( Merman and Radical Dreamers~Without Stealing The Jewel are the only ones absolutely 100% locked into that status), so there won't be room for 100... I'm having SO much fun with this! |
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