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Post by stargazer on Apr 16, 2005 11:59:55 GMT -5
ive been listening to pandora's aquarium lately. since im new here.. any thoughts about the meaning of this song ? does it have anything to do with pandora's myth?
thanks in advance Bárbara
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Post by Julie on Apr 18, 2005 20:32:13 GMT -5
Pandora's Aquarium
Pandora Pandora's aquarium she dives for shells with her nautical nuns and thoughts you thought you'd never tell I am not asking you to believe in me Boy I think you're confused I'm not Persephone foam can be dangerous with tape across my mouth these things you do I never asked you how Line me up in single file with all your grievances Stare but I can taste you're still alive below the waste ripples come and ripples go and ripple back to me Pandora Pandora's aquarium
she dives for shells with her nautical nuns and thoughts you thought you'd never tell Line me up in single file with all your grievances Stare but I can taste you're still alive below the waste ripples come and ripples go and ripple back to me I am not asking you to believe in me Boy I think you're confused I'm not Persephone She's in New York somewhere checking her accounts The Lord of The Flies was diagnosed as Sound
This song is about getting out of your deep depression by finding alternatives and meaning in your life that can help you cope. The sadness runs so deep in this song. It is somewhat like "Hey Jupiter"--the feeling of being dry because you've cried so much that there's nothing left but this death-like feeling that you are dull and lifeless. That is the deep depression that begins the song, but she starts uncovering things that can help her throught his tragedy and that's what Pandora's for. She helps her see that she can and will get past this by really deciphering everything that's making her feels this way, getting therapuetic help and help from loved ones.
Here's Tori's description of it: "You know when you've cried and cried, and you really can't cry anymore, so you're very quiet? I started hearing the water, and Pandora - the last song on the record - came to me. She was sort of warning me that there are so many feelings under the rocks that I needed to turn into. She told me, 'You need to dive into this one, Tori, because your healing is in there. Once you go, it's a whole new journey, but you've got to metaphorically leave this little dock and come with me to find out what's really in this ocean of feelings.' So I did. And that's where I met these songs."
“I use a lot of symbology, so if you dive into the symbol world, you’ll have a better idea of what’s going on. You have to go into the myth of Persephone to really understand what I’m talking about: You have to know that the Lord of the Flies is another word for Hades, and that Hades captured Persephone. It’s the rape of Persephone; that is her myth. And she became queen of the underworld and couldn’t leave for half the year... But did she choose to stay by eating the pomegranate seed? Did she know the rules or did he trick her?” [New Jersey Star Ledger - November 20, 1998]
“I couldn’t chase after something that wasn’t going to manifest itself in the physical. I didn’t become a mother, although I owned life, I couldn’t go back to being that person I was before. And yet...I knew that there was some primitive agony of women losing their children that I had to dive through. And believe it or not, Pandora took me by the hand and came first.” [The last song on from the choirgirl hotel but the first on the album to have been written.] “It took me by the hand, drug me under, and all of a sudden, we were off.” [Cincinnati Enquirer - July 17, 1998]
“Well all in all about, I started writing right after I miscarried, and I miscarried on December, 23 1996, which obviously, the angel was on the tree and the whole bit. So soon after that the songs started to come, thank God. And Pandora was the first one to come, not in her entirety, but she started to come. She came off the water. I was staying on the river, and the water was a large part of this record. I would spend hours on the water and seeing how the sea transformed itself, knowing that I had to transform myself from a woman who had lost a baby to a woman who was grieving, to a woman who had to find joy in life again. So the songs began, I guess you could say, early January and the album was finished in February of 1998, ready to be re-mastered.” [The Inside Connection - June 1998]
SONG CANVAS: "pandora's Aquarium" Because I have a lot of songs in my life that come with archetypes intrinsic to their own myths, I feel as if I've been able to try on many different archetypes. So much so that it feels like Pandora's box of archetypes soemtimes. But not all of them figure in to my personal myths. Of course, they do when I step into the jeans of a song and take on that archetype in performance, hether in the studio or onstage. But I had to separate archetypes that I play with and that, yes, may affect me but are not foundational in my personal myth. Just as I had to accept Rhiannon as one of the pieces that make up my core person. I also had to realize that I am more aligned with Demeter than with Aphrodite, or even Persephone, who seemed like an archetype that I could claim. Even though there is a violation and a rape involved in my life, that story isn't my core. For example, Persephone is Beenie's myth. (Beenie is Nancy Shanks, oen of my closest friends. We've developed the habit of calling each other "Beenie," stemming from the expression "Do you know what I mean, bean?") Beenie has been only a best friend, but at times the Beenie was molested by her father from the age of two through the age of seven, a nightmare that recalls the rape of Persephone and the betrayal by Persephone's father, Zeus, and her entire life has been devoted to healing the deepest, most invasive unseeable scar that one can ever have. She ahs truly made a journey through the depths--the madness of bipolar anxiety disorder, which now is still a day-to-day struggle. But by making her wound her wise wound, she has transmitted her multiple rapes and betrayals into a fabric that is a piece in the rich tapestry of Persephone, Queen of the Underwrold. Beenie is no longer only the ravished, victimized Kore (Greek for "maiden"). Together Demeter and Persephone are maiden, mother, and crone.
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Post by stargazer on Apr 22, 2005 14:03:32 GMT -5
thank you ;D
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