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Sept 28, 2003 20:10:47 GMT -5
Post by talulad on Sept 28, 2003 20:10:47 GMT -5
Chopin is so fucking amazing. Some of the best music ever written, but only if you are a piano freak like me.
anyone else think so?
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Sept 29, 2003 4:17:36 GMT -5
Post by Koalapupu on Sept 29, 2003 4:17:36 GMT -5
I'm more of a lame Beethoven luvva. His piano sonatas are just so... hot. That's what I feel. So full of emotion. Unfortunately I haven't listened to/played much Chopin, just some smaller pieces. What I've heard, I've liked. I have to get back to that then, after a trip to the library...
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Sept 29, 2003 13:56:07 GMT -5
Post by ♥Mary♥ on Sept 29, 2003 13:56:07 GMT -5
Ooooh, love Chopin. Probably my favorite of the Romantics. And I'm not a 'piano freak' other than being someone who loves to listen to piano. [Hey, wait, Jenni....what's 'lame' about being a Beethoven lover? I'm one, too! I agree...love the sonatas.] As for Chopin, favorites of mine include many of his nocturnes (esp. Nocturne No. 20 in C sharp minor, of course...who wouldn't love it?), some mazurkas, some Etudes (love the 'Black Key' Op.10 No 5 in Gb-), and polonaises (esp. "Heroic"), Sonata no. 3 in B minor, (Op. 58...I think), and tons of the preludes and valses.  |
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Sept 29, 2003 14:03:10 GMT -5
Post by Koalapupu on Sept 29, 2003 14:03:10 GMT -5
[Hey, wait, Jenni....what's 'lame' about being a Beethoven lover? I'm one, too! I agree...love the sonatas.] The only lame thing about it is that if you say you love Beethoven (when asked about classical music) it seems like that's the only thing you know about classical because he's so well known. I always fear people think I have listened to only like Moonlight Sonata... in one episode of Ren And Stimpy...  |
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Sept 29, 2003 16:06:19 GMT -5
Post by ♥Mary♥ on Sept 29, 2003 16:06:19 GMT -5
The only lame thing about it is that if you say you love Beethoven (when asked about classical music) it seems like that's the only thing you know about classical because he's so well known. I always fear people think I have listened to only like Moonlight Sonata... in one episode of Ren And Stimpy... ROFLMAO at Ren and Stimpy episode! Somewhere over on Melody's site, Pink Sonata (a classical music forum), there was a thread about classical music being used in interesting instances in TV shows and what-not... But, yes, I get what you mean by 'lame'. Well, I do love Moonlight Sonata, for sure, but that famous first movement is as overplayed/overused for love scenes and what-not, as Mozart's Requiem is overused for funeral/death scenes, etc. And Beethoven's "Fur Elise" bagatelle is another beautiful character piece, but way overdone, IMHO. However, I could listen to Beethoven's entire Waldstein every single day.....or Bach's Brandenburg Concerti(-os?) (esp. No. 3 and 5) or Mozart's sonata No.11 in A major, or Schumann's Kinderszenen (sorry if I'm misspelling, I'm too lazy to run to go check the cd cases!) No.s 7 & 12, and pretty much any piano sonata or trio by Haydn, and, and .... Speaking of Chopin and music in movies, etc... Did you see "The Pianist?" |
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Sept 29, 2003 16:36:18 GMT -5
Post by Koalapupu on Sept 29, 2003 16:36:18 GMT -5
Ah yes, Bee. Fuer Elise... When I played it at lessons I felt like some kind of a musical prostitute. I don't know, media has totally ruined that piece. So normally if I now play it I just play the middle, not-so-well-known bits that are wonderful.
Yes, Bach's Brandenburg is neat too. My favorite at the moment (when talking about classical outside Beethoven) is Edward Elgar's Cello Concerto (forgot the number now...7?). I fell in love with it when I saw the movie "Hilary and Jackie", it still brings tears in my eyes, so moving.
Ha and from that film to another... Unfortunately I haven't seen Pianist yet. But they're going to show it here again because a lot of people requested it to be shown. So it should play here in like a week or so, and I definitely want to see it!
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Sept 29, 2003 17:17:55 GMT -5
Post by ♥Mary♥ on Sept 29, 2003 17:17:55 GMT -5
Ah yes, Bee. Fuer Elise... When I played it at lessons I felt like some kind of a musical prostitute. I don't know, media has totally ruined that piece. So normally if I now play it I just play the middle, not-so-well-known bits that are wonderful. Yes, Bach's Brandenburg is neat too. My favorite at the moment (when talking about classical outside Beethoven) is Edward Elgar's Cello Concerto (forgot the number now...7?). I fell in love with it when I saw the movie "Hilary and Jackie", it still brings tears in my eyes, so moving. Ha and from that film to another... Unfortunately I haven't seen Pianist yet. But they're going to show it here again because a lot of people requested it to be shown. So it should play here in like a week or so, and I definitely want to see it! That's so weird! My friend was just talking about the movie "Hilary and Jackie" a few days ago... I LOVE CELLO! (which is why we were talking about it...b/c of Jacqueline du Pre) My 2nd favorite instrument to piano....so, Yes, I'm familiar with Sir Edward Elgar, but not familiar with which of his cello concerti were used for that film....although I remember reading a review with his name mentioned....wasn't du Pre fascinated with his work or liked one particular piece of his? (probably the one they used in the movie, lol!) He's masterful at being somber and touching, though.... and I can imagine how impactful it was for that movie. |
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Sept 29, 2003 17:20:12 GMT -5
Post by ♥Mary♥ on Sept 29, 2003 17:20:12 GMT -5
We are soooo not even talking Chopin!
Sorry, J!
But you can get us back on track...
What are some of your favorites? And who are some of your favorite performers of his work? (I adore Szpilman, which is what made me ask about the movie...)
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Sept 29, 2003 17:25:12 GMT -5
Post by Koalapupu on Sept 29, 2003 17:25:12 GMT -5
.wasn't du Pre fascinated with his work or liked one particular piece of his? (probably the one they used in the movie, lol!) He's masterful at being somber and touching, though.... and I can imagine how impactful it was for that movie. Yeah, Du Pre played the piece when she was like 17 and she did it beautifully. I think it's still her most well-known performance. It was used so well in the movie - she plays it and becomes famous, and then the piece is kind of haunting in the background throughout the movie(Emily Watson did a great job!). You should see it, it's wonderful. And the tragic life Jacqueline du Pre had - it's definitely a tear-jerker movie, so watch out. |
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Sept 29, 2003 17:36:40 GMT -5
Post by ♥Mary♥ on Sept 29, 2003 17:36:40 GMT -5
Yeah, Du Pre played the piece when she was like 17 and she did it beautifully. I think it's still her most well-known performance. It was used so well in the movie - she plays it and becomes famous, and then the piece is kind of haunting in the background throughout the movie(Emily Watson did a great job!). You should see it, it's wonderful. And the tragic life Jacqueline du Pre had - it's definitely a tear-jerker movie, so watch out. Yeah, I've been meaning to see it for awhile. I had some Yo-Yo Ma on in the car the other day (some of Bach's cello suites) and my friend who was with me was talking about wanting to learn to play cello when she was younger....and she had just recently seen the movie, so she was telling me a bit about it. Sounds great....in that tearjerker kind of way that I love, lol. |
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Sept 29, 2003 18:49:41 GMT -5
Post by talulad on Sept 29, 2003 18:49:41 GMT -5
Yeah my friend was in a piano competition and played the Military Polonaise, and almost won... got a standing ovation... then some little bitch-girl got up and played "Fantasie Impromptu" and blew him out of the water... that is one of the most amazing pieces of piano work ever, as is the first etude of opus 10.
Beethoven is cool but I think Chopin is more fun to play.
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Sept 30, 2003 16:00:56 GMT -5
Post by mandy on Sept 30, 2003 16:00:56 GMT -5
I just have to say that Hilary & Jackie is one of my favourite movies...and that the soundtrack is amazing.
I don't have a favourite classical composer...there are many that I like.
What about the movie The Red Violin...that soundtrack is amazing as well!
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Sept 30, 2003 21:10:02 GMT -5
Post by ~Slave To The Muse~ on Sept 30, 2003 21:10:02 GMT -5
I'm more of a Tcihakovsky girl myself.
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Oct 1, 2003 1:12:03 GMT -5
Post by matzy on Oct 1, 2003 1:12:03 GMT -5
i LOVE almost any kind of classical music. i've played a lot of chopin, mozart, beethoven and bach myself, and my favourite out of these four would definitely be bach. i don't know, he was just so ahead of his time. chopin is great, but so hard to play that i gave up after two preludes, haha. as far as listening is concerned, my favourites are the russian composers... tchaikovsky, prokofjev, shostakovitch, stravinsky... they were geniouses. ps: to those of you who like the brandenburg concerti... brandenburg's the state i was born in and lived in for 20 years.  |
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Oct 1, 2003 7:05:10 GMT -5
Post by talulad on Oct 1, 2003 7:05:10 GMT -5
chopin is great, but so hard to play that i gave up after two preludes, haha. haha, yeah. i completely agree. |
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Oct 7, 2003 3:43:42 GMT -5
Post by orfeo on Oct 7, 2003 3:43:42 GMT -5
I know I've said this before, but for the benefit of newer people, if I believed in reincarnation I would swear blind that Chopin and Tori are one and the same person. No-one else understand the different registers of the piano in quite the same way.
I don't actually LISTEN to Chopin nearly as much as I used to these days. My classical music listening has swung towards chamber music rather than piano. I think it's because any time I listen to piano I start getting the urge to play it, and that's quite depressing when you don't practise that much anymore. And Chopin requires more practice than almost any other composer to do it right.
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Oct 8, 2003 12:05:55 GMT -5
Post by matzy on Oct 8, 2003 12:05:55 GMT -5
And Chopin requires more practice than almost any other composer to do it right. this is sooo right. mozart, bach, beethoven and even schubert are easy to get back into after a certain abscence from the piano, but chopin is just too hard. i used to be able to play this "raindrops" prelude (is that nickname familiar to everyone? i don't have my music here with me and i forgot the number of that prelude) pretty well, and nowadays it sounds nothing like raindrops anymore, lol. but on another note - practising too much can't be good. remember schumann? his hand got paralyzed 'cuz he was practising too hard. then clara had to play all his pieces. poor her. ;D |
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Oct 8, 2003 13:22:35 GMT -5
Post by ♥Mary♥ on Oct 8, 2003 13:22:35 GMT -5
this is sooo right. mozart, bach, beethoven and even schubert are easy to get back into after a certain abscence from the piano, but chopin is just too hard. i used to be able to play this "raindrops" prelude (is that nickname familiar to everyone? i don't have my music here with me and i forgot the number of that prelude) pretty well, and nowadays it sounds nothing like raindrops anymore, lol. but on another note - practising too much can't be good. remember schumann? his hand got paralyzed 'cuz he was practising too hard. then clara had to play all his pieces. poor her. ;D LOL at Clara... Yes, I know 'Raindrops'! |
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Oct 8, 2003 18:36:14 GMT -5
Post by talulad on Oct 8, 2003 18:36:14 GMT -5
oooo i love the raindrop prelude. soooooo pretty |
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Nov 11, 2003 2:52:03 GMT -5
Post by Happymelody on Nov 11, 2003 2:52:03 GMT -5
this is an utterly amazing thread. I wish I could get this much classical music conversation going at my own forum! Like Honeybee, I'm a total piano junkie. I don't think I've really ever fully appreciated Chopin. When I lived in Seattle, I had a close girlfriend who was learning Barcarolle (sp?) and so I heard her practice it a number of times and just loved it. I love the Kinderszenen too. The only disappointment is that it feels like there really aren't enough hours in the day to listen to everything you want to! truthfully though, I just LOVE Bach. Edit: I forgot to mention that Sonata #2 in b flat minor by Chopin gives me goosebumps! ;D |
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