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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Feb 19, 2005 16:55:38 GMT -5
Impression, reactions, ramblings, love! Put it all here. ;D  |
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Post by talulad on Feb 23, 2005 14:20:36 GMT -5
Ok so am I the only one who was thinking the title referred to joy in a general (as in non-specific) sense, not the military kind of general? I feel so dumb. This is Toast[/b] all over again!
 : Ribbons Undone[/b]
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Post by Mary on Feb 23, 2005 14:52:36 GMT -5
Hehe. Tori's famous for the double (or I should just say multiple) meanings in her song lyrics and titles. This is definitely one of my favorite examples.
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Post by Villiy on Feb 23, 2005 21:08:47 GMT -5
I love this song. One of favorites!
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Post by *Herry* on Feb 28, 2005 4:24:59 GMT -5
Yes, Jay - I did too! And the same with Toast!!!  I love General Joy, though, and I love Tori's chat about it in the DVD. Can't get enough of Tori's politics, hee hee  The 'response' vocals remind me of Space Dog, which is a reeeeeeally good thing. I love my Space Doggy xo I also like the drive of this song. And the fact that I think of Carly when it comes on:-*
: Ribbons Undone
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Post by orfeo on Apr 10, 2005 22:16:52 GMT -5
Sigh.
I really do quite like this song, or at least elements of it. It's got a nice use of really deep growling piano notes. I really like the way the guitar imitates the piano.
It's just that General Joy seems so... general.
This probably isn't in any way true to the genesis of the song, but I can't shake my personal impression that this song is a case of deciding to make a Statement. It sounds like someone decided "I'm going to write a song about war" and went off and did it rather than waiting for inspiration to come and to write about whatever happened to turn up.
The lyrics lack interest and they're not distinctive Tori. There's a one track allegory where characteristics like Joy and Sorrow and Happiness are personified. Which might work if they were fleshed out a bit, but the same lines come around several times far too quickly and the thrust of them was pretty obvious the first time. And the reference to "hawks" changes in a fairly predictable way that is oddly reminiscent of my own attempts at songwriting. Given my general lack of platinum albums, this is not a good comparison.
I've noticed that I like the song better when it's not immediately after "Sleeps With Butterflies", so to some extent it's the old problem of crashing after a high point. Nevertheless, even when I play the song on its own I find my attention wandering after a while. It just doesn't grab me.
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Post by Julie on Sept 5, 2005 0:39:15 GMT -5
"General Joy" isn't my all-time favorite, but I still love it for what it is. I like the intro piano part, it's really groovy.
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