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Post by ♥Mary♥ on Feb 19, 2005 16:58:41 GMT -5
Impression, reactions, ramblings, love! Put it all here. ;D  |
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Post by talulad on Feb 22, 2005 18:53:28 GMT -5
You know, I wish we could make the first page twice as many threads, I really hope some of these song ones don't get lost... Oh well can't be helped. And I can't complain about a free service  That said... I'm kinda just absorbing the music right now. Playing the whole album through, not really intently listening but just letting it flow through me. However, the line The sexiest thing is trust from Jamaica Inn[/b] grabbed my attention like an old friend popping out of a crowd of strangers. I mean... I can't begin to explain how true that line is to me. Trust IS the sexiest thing... it's so simple yet so profound. Thank you Tori for connecting with me in your unique way once again. |
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Post by fearscape222 on Feb 22, 2005 19:15:13 GMT -5
I love that line, too. Hence, my avatar line. |
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Post by talulad on Feb 22, 2005 19:27:40 GMT -5
I love that line, too. Hence, my avatar line. I've said it before and I'll say it again... Awesomeness. ;D |
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Post by Mary on Feb 22, 2005 19:43:28 GMT -5
L.M.A.O. at the 2nd line of your avatar, Carly.
*cracks up*
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Post by Mary on Feb 22, 2005 19:49:08 GMT -5
You know, I wish we could make the first page twice as many threads, I really hope some of these song ones don't get lost... Oh well can't be helped. And I can't complain about a free service That said... I'm kinda just absorbing the music right now. Playing the whole album through, not really intently listening but just letting it flow through me. Well, I garden-color-coded the threads so hopefully they'll stand out and they'll all get enough action to keep growing nicely above ground! I know what you mean, I wish proboards allowed me to set the posts per page as I wished. Also, how is it possible for you to just "not listen intently"?!  I think I get what you're saying, but I find I just want to sit and VERY INTENTLY listen!... even on the very first couple listens. Heck, ESPECIALLY on the first couple listens. I used to be able to do the passive listening thing better, I think, but these days I'm so zoomed in when I get new music, especially Tori music. Dennis, are you still around this place? You know what I mean by LISTENing, and let me tell you I'm wanting to do nothing else but LISTEN to this album.  |
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Post by talulad on Feb 22, 2005 20:23:46 GMT -5
Well, I garden-color-coded the threads so hopefully they'll stand out and they'll all get enough action to keep growing nicely above ground! I know what you mean, I wish proboards allowed me to set the posts per page as I wished. Also, how is it possible for you to just "not listen intently"?! I think I get what you're saying, but I find I just want to sit and VERY INTENTLY listen!... even on the very first couple listens. Heck, ESPECIALLY on the first couple listens. I used to be able to do the passive listening thing better, I think, but these days I'm so zoomed in when I get new music, especially Tori music. Dennis, are you still around this place? You know what I mean by LISTENing, and let me tell you I'm wanting to do nothing else but LISTEN to this album. It's funny you should ask that, you were one of the people who inspired me to do it, I think. I didn't realize that until just now... What I mean is, a lot of people have been talking about how they love this album but there are enough songs that they don't connect with that they're just not sure what they feel yet. I know you mentioned that you'll love it no matter what but there are some songs you just don't get... Well I think the reason I did that, the flowing/not listening thing, without even realizing it, is that being in that mode makes the songs more accesible to me. I think sometimes we try too hard to listen to the music and I don't know about anyone else but from time to time that makes it harder for me to accept songs for what they are. I try too hard to get it and then when I don't I don't like the song. This could be sonically or lyrically, really... So I guess that what I'm saying is, just sitting here and letting the album flow through me is my way of appreciating all of this beautiful music. And I can tell you already that there are a few songs I didn't like when I first listened but just letting them happen has already increased my appreciation for them. |
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Post by Mary on Feb 24, 2005 17:06:52 GMT -5
Jay, I hope you don't mind if I share all my "wrong lyrics" with you! LOL
Here's another one in this song:
When she says 'between Rebecca's'
I keep thinking she's saying 'between rubber cars'.
LOL! That doesn't even make sense, but I hear it that way!
Ok, now go and don't hear it that way!
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Post by Koalapupu on Feb 26, 2005 8:15:34 GMT -5
Jason, I have the same listening method -- usually! I can more easily get acquainted with an album if I put it on while I'm doing something else, like cleaning or drawing. That way I don't focus on it too much, but rather let it live in the same space with me. If that makes any sense. Then later on I grab the lyrics and start listening to the albums with more focus. This time, however, I was so excited about the album that when I put it on the first time, I sat down with the lyrics and listened to each song while reading the lyrics. So I think this might've given rise to some of my non-favorites -- like Hoochie Woman. I think with "your" method I might've gotten faster used to it. About Jamaica Inn. I'm a bit tired of references to jeans and holes by now, but after that first sentence is over, the rest of the song is a party. I adore it. Maybe because of the pirates, which consequently remind me YKTR  Ok, the more I listen to the songs, I see that a lot of the songs on the album really are about beginnings of relationships, or inbetweens where the people are unsure of what's ahead of them, or unsure of what has been going on. So ha, doesn't really sound much like the "mellowed out, stable, settled down" Tori some people (not necessarily here) have described her to be these days! |
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Post by redcloud on Feb 26, 2005 9:32:47 GMT -5
The "sexiest thing is trust" line is not that big of a deal for me. Sexy things are first impressions. Trust is acquired with time. You can't compare something acquired with time and something you feel instantly. This song is one of the weakest IMO.
 : Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Y Control
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 1, 2005 19:31:10 GMT -5
This is my favorite song so far. It reminds me of my husband...speaking of funny misheard lyrics, though, I keep hearing underneath your permanent for underneath your firmaments!
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 6, 2005 14:54:10 GMT -5
I love this song...I love the image of her approaching the cliffs...the suspension of trust when the captain doubts whether her lover (who is helping to bring her small ship into harbor)is a friend...the serious complication of her lover sending another girl (possibly the one who reminds him of her?) to bring her into his harbor. And underneath the suspension of trust is her belief in his sweetness, although he remains rather hidden, very English,that is compelling her towards his coast...revealed amid all the darker, English lyrics about cliffs, rocky coasts, pirates by her declaration that she has worshipped in the Jamaica Inn...with him, we have to assume.
Okay, I'm done being an English major now, but very Bronteish. The man is a little bit like Mr.Darcy, s o reserved.
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Post by lilyella on Mar 8, 2005 15:07:19 GMT -5
This is my favorite song on the album.
I don't know if it's because I have a huge obsession with pirates (really and truly!), or because this song just makes me feel like I'm floating on the ocean.
"The sexiest thing is trust" just blows my mind, time and again!
*reserving this space for a more in-depth write-up*
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Post by orfeo on Mar 19, 2005 7:47:27 GMT -5
Yet again, inserting my large ramble prepared elsewhere!  To me, this is the first of four songs on The Beekeeper that probably surpass anything she's done for sheer beauty of sound (the others are Sleeps With Butterflies, Martha's Foolish Ginger and Goodbye Pisces). I know there are some fans complaining about the more opulent sound Tori is using these days, but as it was always her ear for combining sounds that I loved, I have absolutely no problem with her producing something this rich. Jamaica Inn almost has a fairytale air to it, or a folksong touch. No doubt this is helped by the use of mandolin (I hereby nominate the song for best use of mandolin in a Tori song - it's certainly better than Snow Cherries From France) and the very simple chords in the verses. There must be something going right, because the chorus contains a chord progression that often annoys me no end and here it seems perfectly judged. The critical chord happens just before the word "pirates" and again at "firmaments". It's a 'chromatic' chord, used to heighten emotion as the bass line moves up a small step. I've seen more than one average tune made to sound schmaltzy by overuse of this kind of device, but Tori succeeds in placing it so that it adds a touch of spice. I might not like this song quite so much if I wasn't aware of the meaning of the lyrics. Someone who isn't obsessive enough to know Tori lives in Cornwall, and who doesn't know the rather unique methods of Cornish pirates might not recognize the metaphor being used here. Cornish 'pirates' (actually, it was sometimes an entire village) used to lure ships on to the rocks by hanging out lanterns that resembled lighthouses, but in the wrong places. So instead of finding safe harbour, a boat would be wrecked at the base of the cliffs. Daphne du Maurier, a Cornish novelist, wrote a book called 'Jamaica Inn' (it's a real place) which includes these activities. Oh yes, another of her novels is 'Rebecca'. See? Easy when you know. For some miraculous reason I knew ALL of this before ever hearing this song, so for once unlocking Tori's meaning was pretty simple for me. And I like the metaphor - betrayal, a new woman as a 'wrecker', what was thought to be a safe relationship turning out to be anything but. Round it all off with a glittering, delicate piano figure and you have a winning recipe. If you'd told me a few albums ago that Tori would ever sound like this, I might have found it hard to imagine. But I probably would have still believed you, because that's the genius of the woman. |
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 21, 2005 11:01:18 GMT -5
Trevor, I like your review! I also love this song and all those metaphors, only...i "Ve been assuming that there was a kind of double metaphor-that she actually is brought in safely despite all these allusions-other woman, pirates, the captain who is doubtful-and the sweetness of the music and part of the chorus, "I have worshipped in the Jamaica Inn" made me think so. anyway...glad you like this song,too. |
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Post by Hellfire on Mar 25, 2005 21:52:53 GMT -5
I didn't like this one at first, seemed kinda bland, but then the lyrics sort of stood out for me and I really dig it now. 8/10.
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Post by Monika on May 8, 2005 15:42:40 GMT -5
I love this song!!! It took time though to soak in, but now it got me for sure. Paulo are we the same person dammit? lol  |
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Post by Julie on Sept 5, 2005 0:12:20 GMT -5
I love "Jamaica Inn". My favorite part is definitely, "Are you positive this is a friend?" Gosh, that line hits me really hard. I've had friendship troubles all my life and I'm still dealing with it really.
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I think I get what you're saying, but I find I just want to sit and VERY INTENTLY listen!... even on the very first couple listens. Heck, ESPECIALLY on the first couple listens. 
